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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:592:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Intresuje me da li na obican REL aparat za varenje od 160 A koji ima dodatnu kutiju sa diodama (4x300A vezane u grec) jer samo tako i zavarivam,postoji mogucnos da se prikljuci TIG pistolj sa naravno povezanom bocom za argon da bi se zavarivalo TIG postupkom ili to mora biti inverterski aparat?</p>\\n ', created = 1684882725, expire = 1684969125, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:3c97a259e in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:777:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Siguran sam da moze da se prepravi, postoje REL/TIG aparati ali to ce vec neko strucniji da ti objasni.</p>\\n<p>Ono sto je bitno da znas za pocetak, strujne karakteristike su slicne (padajuce) ali razlicite.</p>\\n<p>Npr. Kada radis u REL-u, na 100 A, napon je 24 V. Kada radis u TIG-u na 100 A napon je 15 V. Znaci mora \\"nesto\\" da se ugradi, zajedno sa nekim prekidacem koj in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:343:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Genijalac je samo nik, nije karakterna osobina!</p>\\n ', created = 1684882725, expire = 1684969125, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:621fdb783583e711bfe5964a7a186a32'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor. in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:863:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p><div class=\\"bb-quote\\"><b>Zokisase wrote:</b><blockquote class=\\"bb-quote-body\\">... obican REL aparat za varenje od 160 A... </blockquote></div><br />\\nSta je obican REL aparat? Aparat sa trafoom koji daje samo AC struju? Jer kada ja kazem obican REL aparat, u stvari mislim na invertorski.<br />\ in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1228:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Na engleskom imaš puno detalja o TIG postupku (sam rad sa aparatom , električi i hemijski principi rada aparata) možeš videti na<br />\\n<a href=\\"http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/TIGhandbook/\\" title=\\"http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/TIGhandbook/\\">http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/TIGhandbook/</a><br />\\nI opet kao što Genijalac kaže in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1523:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Aparat je sa trafoom klasican marke Bergner (predpostavljam Nemacke) od 160A.Kupljen je pre 30 god. i sa njim je vareno poprilicno.Podatci su bili odstampani ali su se vremenom obrisalji (otpala farba) ali npr. pravio sam neku masinu gde je konstrukcija bila uglavnom 10mm a varovi dugacki po celu elektrodu od 3,25 bez prekida.Aparat nije nikad ukljcio zastitu da se ohladi.Vremenom mi je prijatelj napravio kutiju sa diodama jer sam hteo da napravim in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1873:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Vidi ovako:<br />\\nPošto nisam varioc ,nego električar/elektroničar odgovoriću ti sa stanovišta aparata .<br />\\nPrvo TIG znači Tungsten Inert Gas , tj na srpskom volfram u inertnom gasu. Tj elektroda je od vorframa i ona se ne troši tokom varenja (troši se ali jako malo ,tipčna vorfram elektroda je oko 15 cm i ona traje i po par stotina varova). Ukoliko ti na postojeći aparat dodaš fabrički TIG pištolj i in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:699:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Malo teorije </p>\\n<p><a href=\\"http://www.mfkg.kg.ac.rs/index2.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=703&Itemid=27\\" title=\\"http://www.mfkg.kg.ac.rs/index2.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=703&Itemid=27\\">http://www.mfkg.kg.ac.rs/index2.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&am in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:298:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>HB</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:5651d908d5b3ab8d4a8fe8089b4e7d83'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/t in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:538:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Hvala na odgovoru koji mi je bio potreban.Odgovor je decidno dat i argumentovano tako da sam odlucio da aparat ostavim kakav jeste a za TIG varenje ipak kupiti fabricki aparat za tu namenu.Hvala jos jednom na dobrom odgovoru na moje pitanje.</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:1b910efbeb5adae06200c5e41fa29661'\";s:5:\"%f in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1043:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Slazem se sa navedenim , pogotovu sa clanom Horiba lFaktor@.<br />\\nU sustini je moguce napraviti dobar REl/TIG aparat od skoro svakog REl-a alije kao sto je receno potrebno dodati dosta sklopova tako da u potpunosti maksimalno zadovolji i TIG i REl postupak ,a ne da jedan buder dobar ,a drugi da se poremeti. U zavisnosti od aparata potrebno je doraditi trafo (ako je potrebno) , ubaciti diode (ili jos bolja varijanta u grecu tiristor in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:707:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Moze raditi uz malo dodataka uz sam trafo i eventulno njegova modifikacija. Trebaju se izmeriti karakteristike samog trafoa kao sto Zoran rece i u praznom hodu i pod opterecenjem , osim dioda dodati prigusnicu obavezno , kondenzatore i ako hoces HF mod elektroniku . Pitanje koje je najbitnije je da li se isplati sve to prepravljati zato sto nije bas jeftino ili jednostavno kupis gotov i to je to . Pozdrav</p>\\n ', created in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '1:73894c064aa0ff3360dd5c484d45b684'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/tig-aparat', '', '172.70.43.52', 1684882726) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:551:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>imam co2 aparat trofazni 200a proizvodi ih covek iz sopota.prezadovoljan sam aparatim,e sada me intresuje da li bi se mogao prepraviti i sta je potrebno dodati da bih ga mogao koristiti i za TIG zavarivanje,recimo inoksa,znam da ne moze aluminijum.hvala</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:73894c064aa0ff3360dd5c484d45b684'\"; in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '1:8416eb4b355336ab1bc57831fc874510'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/tig-aparat', '', '172.70.43.52', 1684882726) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1065:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p><div class=\\"bb-quote\\"><b>wice wrote:</b><blockquote class=\\"bb-quote-body\\">imam co2 aparat trofazni 200a proizvodi ih covek iz sopota.prezadovoljan sam aparatim,e sada me intresuje da li bi se mogao prepraviti i sta je potrebno dodati da bih ga mogao koristiti i za TIG zavarivanje,recimo inoksa,znam da ne moze aluminijum.hvala</blockquote& in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:389:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>kada sam zvao tipa koji ih proizvodi rekao mi je da treba prigusnicaa da se doda i jos nesto</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:b5396b2ab741ef3018cade99b254e096'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:848:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>uf, ne razumem se u unutrasnjost aparata previse. U smislu, znam da vozim kola, ali ne znam ni da ih napravim, ni da ih popravim, cak ne znam ni sta ima unutra.<br />\\nAko se covek stvarno razume, onda neka ti da ponudu a ti odluci.</p>\\n<p>Inace, u opstem zavarivackom zargonu, prigusnica u CO2 aparatu ima smisao kontrole indukcije pri transferu kratkim spojem, tj sustinski smanjenje prstanja pri zavarivan in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:391:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>mozda me i baronise,zato sam i pitao ako mogu sam da uradim da ne placam stotinak e njegov rad</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:acff06cb4fc46683532458b958921b74'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3 in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:817:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>zoran_i је добро објаснио значај пригушнице код ЦО2 апарата за заваривање. Практично она успорава нагли посраст струје која мора да има контролисани ток приликом успостављања волтиног лука. Што се тиче самоградње ТИГ апарата, наравно да је све могуће in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:541:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>[marq=left]<span style=\\"color:blue\\"><span style=\\"font-weight:bold\\"><span style=\\"font-style:italic\\">Uradi sam, ali bez znanja i alata nema zanata!</span></span></span>[/marq]</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:409:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Без алата нема заната, a без знања ни најбољи алат неће помоћи..</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:f0da8a98e1c6682beb3cd064732e4fc0'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\" in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:611:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>intresuje me da li moze bez premotavanja trafoa.kada sam zvao coveka koji ga je pravio rekao mi je da nije problem da se doradi da vari i na tig,kaze doda se prekidac da se moze birati tig ili mig,i doda se prigusnica i kosta oko 150 e ,nije mi problem platiti ali ako nije komplikacija voleo bih sam da uradim</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = &a in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '1:be0d3a8c7b346410d6457f60df3aeb74'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/tig-aparat', '', '172.70.43.52', 1684882726) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:331:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Najjeftinije ti je da das 150 evra.</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:be0d3a8c7b346410d6457f60df3aeb74'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/p in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:386:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Знам да незнам, а све што знам научио сам од неког.</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:2931e432294a1643b5ed309e8d1117fc'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, � in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:298:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>OK</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:e0aa021e21dddbd6d8cecec71e9cf564'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/t in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '1:9b3141198a6ae2f7e48fd73656eb32ab'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/tig-aparat', '', '172.70.43.52', 1684882726) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:676:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Samo par napomena da se nadovežem na temu, a koje će nekome možda smetati...<br />\\nDva materijala se zavaruju, ne vare se. Vari se mleko, hrana i jos neke stvari.<br />\\nOsoba koja obavlja posao spajanja materijala je zavarivač a ne varioc.</p>\\n<p>Nisam majstor, nemam pojma da zavarujem, ali na mašinskom fakultetu se zbog ovih grešaka pada ispit.</p>\\n ', crea in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '1:148474a099f839f971e009b835bcac8c'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/tig-aparat', '', '172.70.43.52', 1684882726) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:409:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Retrovizor u kolima sluzi za osmatranje puta iza nas,a ne kao zensko ogledalce,koje je uvek okrenuto ka suvozacu.</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:148474a099f839f971e009b835bcac8c'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\" in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '1:d8491d4d2618828958f5f257e0c98bdf'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/tig-aparat', '', '172.70.43.52', 1684882726) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1350:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p><div class=\\"bb-quote\\"><b>unior wrote:</b><blockquote class=\\"bb-quote-body\\">Samo par napomena da se nadovežem na temu, a koje će nekome možda smetati...<br />\\nDva materijala se zavaruju, ne vare se. Vari se mleko, hrana i jos neke stvari.<br />\\nOsoba koja obavlja posao spajanja materijala je zavarivač a ne varioc. N in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '1:945b872dcdae54e0a271f55895aa782c'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/tig-aparat', '', '172.70.43.52', 1684882726) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:380:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Postoji jedna bitna razlika, ovo nije masinski fakultet.Obican narod razume pojmove.</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:945b872dcdae54e0a271f55895aa782c'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, '� in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '3:2931e432294a1643b5ed309e8d1117fc'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/uradi-sam/bravarija/tig-aparat', '', '172.70.43.52', 1684882726) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:386:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Знам да незнам, а све што знам научио сам од неког.</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:2931e432294a1643b5ed309e8d1117fc'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, � in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:611:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Не ради се само о разумевању појмова, него се ради и о бризи о језику. Онај ко не негује и не усавршава свој језик брзо ће остати и без осталих одредница које чине један народ.</p>\\n ', created = 1684882726, expire = 1684969126, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = &a in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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TIG aparat

Submitted by Zokisase on Thu, 16/08/2012 - 14:04

Intresuje me da li na obican REL aparat za varenje od 160 A koji ima dodatnu kutiju sa diodama (4x300A vezane u grec) jer samo tako i zavarivam,postoji mogucnos da se prikljuci TIG pistolj sa naravno povezanom bocom za argon da bi se zavarivalo TIG postupkom ili to mora biti inverterski aparat?

Thu, 16/08/2012 - 16:23
Siguran sam da moze da se
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zoran_i
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Siguran sam da moze da se prepravi, postoje REL/TIG aparati ali to ce vec neko strucniji da ti objasni.

Ono sto je bitno da znas za pocetak, strujne karakteristike su slicne (padajuce) ali razlicite.

Npr. Kada radis u REL-u, na 100 A, napon je 24 V. Kada radis u TIG-u na 100 A napon je 15 V. Znaci mora "nesto" da se ugradi, zajedno sa nekim prekidacem koji ce davati pravilne strujne karakterstike, jedne za REL a druge za TIG.

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Tue, 21/08/2012 - 20:35
Je moguce da nema neki
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Je moguce da nema neki elektronicar?

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Tue, 21/08/2012 - 22:57
Dva prsta!
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Ima. Ali, kada nešto ne znamo odnosno nismo radili takve stvari, onda mudro ćutimo. Polako, ako takav postoji javiće se!

Genijalac je samo nik, nije karakterna osobina!

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Wed, 22/08/2012 - 16:18
Sta je obican aparat
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Zokisase wrote:
... obican REL aparat za varenje od 160 A...

Sta je obican REL aparat? Aparat sa trafoom koji daje samo AC struju? Jer kada ja kazem obican REL aparat, u stvari mislim na invertorski.
Mozes li da kazes ime proizvodjaca i model, a ako je nesto starije pa ne mogu njegove karakteristike da se nadju na netu, da skeniras karakteristike iz njegovog uputstva ili barem da slikas plocicu?

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Sat, 25/08/2012 - 12:57
Na engleskom imaš puno
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Na engleskom imaš puno detalja o TIG postupku (sam rad sa aparatom , električi i hemijski principi rada aparata) možeš videti na
http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/TIGhandbook/ [10]
I opet kao što Genijalac kaže šta? kako ? gde? detalji?
Šta misliš variti sa tim "prepravljenim" REL-TIG aparatom. AL pločevinu od 12mm?? Čelik ? Inox? TIG AC ? TIG DC? Sa HF visokim naponom? bez?
Opet reći samo REL (predpostavljam da pod REL smatraš klasični aparat za elektrolučno zavarivanje sa legiranom elektrodom , znaš ono bez gasa običan aparat)
TIG nemora biti invertorski aparat (novije generacije jesu invertorske jer su u zadnjih 20 god poluprovodnici jeftiniji od klasičnih komponenti)

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Sat, 25/08/2012 - 14:33
Aparat je sa trafoom klasican
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Aparat je sa trafoom klasican marke Bergner (predpostavljam Nemacke) od 160A.Kupljen je pre 30 god. i sa njim je vareno poprilicno.Podatci su bili odstampani ali su se vremenom obrisalji (otpala farba) ali npr. pravio sam neku masinu gde je konstrukcija bila uglavnom 10mm a varovi dugacki po celu elektrodu od 3,25 bez prekida.Aparat nije nikad ukljcio zastitu da se ohladi.Vremenom mi je prijatelj napravio kutiju sa diodama jer sam hteo da napravim starter za auto ali i da se vari sa DC strujom jer su varovi "kazu" bolji za gus.Vario sam i sa njima i bez njih i nisam video neku veliku razliku ali mi to stalno stoji prikopcano tako da se uglavnom vari sa DC.E sad moje pitanje je da li bi samo uz dodavanje pistolja i boce sa argonom moglo variti inox,Al (on mislim da ide sa AC) itd u kucnoj varijanti,znaci ako nesto u kuci se slomi da ne moram da jurim majstora nego sam prevarim.Samo me to intresuje da li bi opcija dogradnja mog aparata bila jeftinija nego da kupim malo kvalitetniji TIG fabricki aparat koji ne verujem da se moze kupiti ispod 300e.Znaci cisto se radi o ekonomskoj isplativosti da bi se aparat kao TIG koristio 3-4 puta godisnje.Nadam se da je sad malo jasnije sta meni u stvari treba.

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Mon, 27/08/2012 - 10:19
Vidi ovako: Pošto nisam
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Vidi ovako:
Pošto nisam varioc ,nego električar/elektroničar odgovoriću ti sa stanovišta aparata .
Prvo TIG znači Tungsten Inert Gas , tj na srpskom volfram u inertnom gasu. Tj elektroda je od vorframa i ona se ne troši tokom varenja (troši se ali jako malo ,tipčna vorfram elektroda je oko 15 cm i ona traje i po par stotina varova). Ukoliko ti na postojeći aparat dodaš fabrički TIG pištolj i izvor gasa (znači imaš elektrodu od vorframa i oko nje inertni gas npr.argon) bez električnih prepravki ti ne dobijaš TIG nego nešto slično tzv. CO2 /argon aparatu , sa time da to tako baš i neće dobro variti jer je elektroda od volframa a ne klasična legirana potrošna elektroda. Za volfram elektrodu su drugačije strujne i naponske karakterisite od klasičnog elektro-lučnog aparata.
Ovaj aparat što ti imaš je po meni grehota uništavati jer kada ti započneš preradu dobijaš od njega jako loš TIG (ukoliko ne dodaš određene elektronske i energetske sklopove) a uništio si jako dobar elektrolučni aparat.
Što se tiče tvoje postojeće prepravke za DC varenje postoje drugačije elektrode (zavisno od materijala) i nekada (opet zavisno od materijala) polariteti (tj masa "-" i pištolj "+" ) nekada menjaju mesta (masa postaje "+" a pištolj postaje "-"). Gasovi kod varenja (argon , CO2ii sl) služe samo da spreče oksidaciju još vrućeg materijala a naponi ,struje i njihovi polariteti u vremenu govore tehnologiju varenja (TIG,MIG,MAG...).

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Tue, 28/08/2012 - 13:50
Malo teorije
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Malo teorije

http://www.mfkg.kg.ac.rs/index2.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=... [15]

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Tue, 28/08/2012 - 21:21
Hvala na odgovoru koji mi je
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Hvala na odgovoru koji mi je bio potreban.Odgovor je decidno dat i argumentovano tako da sam odlucio da aparat ostavim kakav jeste a za TIG varenje ipak kupiti fabricki aparat za tu namenu.Hvala jos jednom na dobrom odgovoru na moje pitanje.

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Sat, 01/09/2012 - 11:48
Slazem se sa navedenim ,
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Slazem se sa navedenim , pogotovu sa clanom Horiba lFaktor@.
U sustini je moguce napraviti dobar REl/TIG aparat od skoro svakog REl-a alije kao sto je receno potrebno dodati dosta sklopova tako da u potpunosti maksimalno zadovolji i TIG i REl postupak ,a ne da jedan buder dobar ,a drugi da se poremeti. U zavisnosti od aparata potrebno je doraditi trafo (ako je potrebno) , ubaciti diode (ili jos bolja varijanta u grecu tiristor-dioda zbog fine regulacije na potenciometar) , ubaciti prigusnicu , HF mod za uspostavljanje luka ako zelis tako , elektro mag. ventil za gas , elektroniku koja sve to regulise i jos po neke stvari tako da na kraju dobijes jednu kompaktnu celinu i kvalitetan aparat ali to sve nije jeftino jbg. Pozdrav

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Thu, 18/10/2012 - 23:13
Moze raditi uz malih dodataka
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Moze raditi uz malo dodataka uz sam trafo i eventulno njegova modifikacija. Trebaju se izmeriti karakteristike samog trafoa kao sto Zoran rece i u praznom hodu i pod opterecenjem , osim dioda dodati prigusnicu obavezno , kondenzatore i ako hoces HF mod elektroniku . Pitanje koje je najbitnije je da li se isplati sve to prepravljati zato sto nije bas jeftino ili jednostavno kupis gotov i to je to . Pozdrav

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Mon, 10/03/2014 - 23:35
imam co2 aparat trofazni
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imam co2 aparat trofazni 200a proizvodi ih covek iz sopota.prezadovoljan sam aparatim,e sada me intresuje da li bi se mogao prepraviti i sta je potrebno dodati da bih ga mogao koristiti i za TIG zavarivanje,recimo inoksa,znam da ne moze aluminijum.hvala

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Tue, 11/03/2014 - 22:06
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wice wrote:
imam co2 aparat trofazni 200a proizvodi ih covek iz sopota.prezadovoljan sam aparatim,e sada me intresuje da li bi se mogao prepraviti i sta je potrebno dodati da bih ga mogao koristiti i za TIG zavarivanje,recimo inoksa,znam da ne moze aluminijum.hvala

Uopste nece biti jednostavno, posto CO2 aparat i TIG aparat imaju suprotne strujne karakteristike. CO2 aparat ima "konstantan napon", a TIG "konstantnu amperazu"...
Ako moze da se prepravi, to bi zahtevalo bas puno truda i dodavanje mnogo delova, maltene celog aparata. Pogotovo ako zelis HF paljenje na TIG-u.

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Tue, 11/03/2014 - 23:31
kada sam zvao tipa koji ih
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kada sam zvao tipa koji ih proizvodi rekao mi je da treba prigusnicaa da se doda i jos nesto

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Wed, 12/03/2014 - 00:27
uf, ne razumem se u
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uf, ne razumem se u unutrasnjost aparata previse. U smislu, znam da vozim kola, ali ne znam ni da ih napravim, ni da ih popravim, cak ne znam ni sta ima unutra.
Ako se covek stvarno razume, onda neka ti da ponudu a ti odluci.

Inace, u opstem zavarivackom zargonu, prigusnica u CO2 aparatu ima smisao kontrole indukcije pri transferu kratkim spojem, tj sustinski smanjenje prstanja pri zavarivanju zicama 1.0 mm i 1.2 mm, pre svega u cistom CO2 gasu, pri vecim brzinama zice. Ali verovatno on zna bolje na sta je mislio.

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Wed, 12/03/2014 - 07:43
mozda me i baronise,zato sam
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mozda me i baronise,zato sam i pitao ako mogu sam da uradim da ne placam stotinak e njegov rad

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Wed, 12/03/2014 - 08:46
zoran_i је добро објаснио
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zoran_i је добро објаснио значај пригушнице код ЦО2 апарата за заваривање. Практично она успорава нагли посраст струје која мора да има контролисани ток приликом успостављања волтиног лука. Што се тиче самоградње ТИГ апарата, наравно да је све могуће ако човек има знање, опрему и простор.

Без алата нема заната, a без знања ни најбољи алат неће помоћи..

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Wed, 12/03/2014 - 19:38
intresuje me da li moze bez
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intresuje me da li moze bez premotavanja trafoa.kada sam zvao coveka koji ga je pravio rekao mi je da nije problem da se doradi da vari i na tig,kaze doda se prekidac da se moze birati tig ili mig,i doda se prigusnica i kosta oko 150 e ,nije mi problem platiti ali ako nije komplikacija voleo bih sam da uradim

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Wed, 12/03/2014 - 22:04
Najjeftinije ti je da das 150
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Najjeftinije ti je da das 150 evra.

Знам да незнам, а све што знам научио сам од неког.

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 00:23
OK
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OK

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 09:31
Samo par napomena da se
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Samo par napomena da se nadovežem na temu, a koje će nekome možda smetati...
Dva materijala se zavaruju, ne vare se. Vari se mleko, hrana i jos neke stvari.
Osoba koja obavlja posao spajanja materijala je zavarivač a ne varioc.

Nisam majstor, nemam pojma da zavarujem, ali na mašinskom fakultetu se zbog ovih grešaka pada ispit.

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 10:02
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unior wrote:
Samo par napomena da se nadovežem na temu, a koje će nekome možda smetati...
Dva materijala se zavaruju, ne vare se. Vari se mleko, hrana i jos neke stvari.
Osoba koja obavlja posao spajanja materijala je zavarivač a ne varioc. Nisam majstor, nemam pojma da zavarujem, ali na mašinskom fakultetu se zbog ovih grešaka pada ispit.

http://svetzavarivanja.rs/vredi-znati/varenje-ili-zavarivanje [35]

Ali jos niko sa masinskog fakulteta ili iz uopste iz struke nije negirao G-dina Karastojkovica tj njegovu suprugu...
Na kraju, medju onima koji su ucestvovali u ovoj jako bitnoj raspravi, doslo se do kompromisa: i jedno i drugo je ispravno...

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 11:05
Postoji jedna bitna razlika,
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Postoji jedna bitna razlika, ovo nije masinski fakultet.Obican narod razume pojmove.

Знам да незнам, а све што знам научио сам од неког.

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 14:28
Не ради се само о разумевању
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Не ради се само о разумевању појмова, него се ради и о бризи о језику. Онај ко не негује и не усавршава свој језик брзо ће остати и без осталих одредница које чине један народ.

Без алата нема заната, a без знања ни најбољи алат неће помоћи..

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 14:34
Sve si rekao, svaka
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Sve si rekao, svaka cast!

Nije bitno ko je ovde doktor nauka a ko majstor.

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 14:42
Za doktore nauka su naucni
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Za doktore nauka su naucni forumi, ovo je samovski forum.
Sujeta je veoma nezgodna stvar, jednaka je neznanju.

Знам да незнам, а све што знам научио сам од неког.

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 15:12
Samo se izrazavam ispravno,
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Samo se izrazavam ispravno, to je jedina stvar. Preko 40 puta je u ovoj temi receno" aparat". Ne postoji aparat nego uredjaj za zavarivanje.
Slazem se da za neke stvari i termine ne postoje nase reci, ali ako vec postoje, koristimo ih.

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Thu, 13/03/2014 - 16:33
bas je mnogo bitno dal je
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bas je mnogo bitno dal je aparat ili uredjaj za zavarivanje.znaci onda nije aparat za gasenje pozara nego uredjaj za gasenje pozara.nepotrebno smarate

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