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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:543:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>@Tenzor;<br />\\nZnači savet je da se bira prema brendu ? Ali ako recimo imamo od istog brenda i one cne i one bele... šta onda ? Možda su bele od nekog jačeg materijala?<br />\\nViđao sam i neke zlataste boje. Šta li je to tek ?</p>\\n ', created = 1684326000, expire = 1684412400, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:26fb1d312206c972a1c1c78940a0b522&#03 in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Kako izabrati dobre burgije ?

Submitted by MasonIzHobija on Sat, 09/12/2017 - 20:00

Pre neki dan, tokom bušenja čeličnog flaha debljine 3mm, ponovo mi se nametnulo jedno staro pitanje - kako izabrati dobre burgije?

Našao sam prvo neku tanku ( recimo fi 2) CRNU burgiju za metal. Išlo je jadno ili nikako.
Probao sa drugom , isto CRNOM i tankom - opet ništa.

Nađem BELU ( kao nerđajući čelik) i izbušim lako skoro kao kroz tvrđe drvo.

Ni CRNA ni BELA nemaju nikakve oznake na sebi osim veličine prečnika. Imate li neki savet, kako razlikovati dobre burgije ( a da nije fazon 10e/ burgija) ?
Interesuje me prvenstveno varijanta za metal ali i za beton. Sa drvetom su mi i kineske završavale posao, mada se brže istupe...dok loše burgije za metal uopšte i ne buše.

Sat, 09/12/2017 - 20:18
Možda bi bilo najbolje da se
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Možda bi bilo najbolje da se bazirate na oznake na samim burgijama , verovatno da su te "bele " neke HSS -G burgije odnosno brušene burrgije . Dobre burgije ima kroz Bosch , Hawera , Ruko.
Burgije za beton su sa SDS + I SDS MAX prihvatom , pa birajte , Bosch , ALpen , Hawera ,Hitachi , Diager, Hilti ....

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Sat, 09/12/2017 - 20:57
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@Tenzor;
Znači savet je da se bira prema brendu ? Ali ako recimo imamo od istog brenda i one cne i one bele... šta onda ? Možda su bele od nekog jačeg materijala?
Viđao sam i neke zlataste boje. Šta li je to tek ?

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Sat, 09/12/2017 - 22:11
Ja lepo napisah prema oznaci
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Ja lepo napisah prema oznaci , a brendove sam nabacao onako usput , mada su svi pomenuti dobri !
Dakle HSS-R je valjana burgija a HSS-G je brušena burgija , dakle HSS-G je bela i može da buši prohrom . Burgije sa prevalakama npr te "zlatne " su verovatno reklamirane kao burgije sa Titan nitrid prevlakom . A postoje još i sa kobaltnom prevlakom , i takve burgije buše i alatni čelik kao od šale . U mom potpisu imate link ka Youtube pa pogledajte video .

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Sat, 09/12/2017 - 23:08
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@Tenzor;

Hvala na savetima, dobra je prezentacija..ali da ne bi i drugi gledali prvo tutorijal o hidroizolaciji Smile , evo i direktnog linka:

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Znači...kobaltne burgije su najbolje ( verovatno i brezobrazno skupe) a potom HSS-G poželjno od poznatog proizvođača.

Mada ona što sam iščeprkao u kutiji sa burgijama, bila je bele boje ali nije imala nikakvo obeležje...verovatno jeftina a odlična. Nadao sam se da prema boji može da se bira ( pa da kupim kad vidim jeftinu a belu ) ali ok, poštujem savet iskusnijeg,
Pozz & hvala

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Thu, 25/04/2019 - 16:21
Kakav je stav što se tiče
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Kakav je stav što se tiče burgija sa hex prihvatom?
Logično je da sigurnije leže u futeru u odnosu na cilindrične, ali nisam siguran za preciznost. Da li bacaju više van ose?
Mogu i u udarni odvijač, mada.. jel neko provao da buši ciglu, beton, metal sa njime?

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Thu, 25/04/2019 - 16:55
Ja kao Čačanin bih preporucio
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Ja kao Čačanin bih preporucio FRA (fabrika reznoga alata) burgije iz moga grada koje su na daleko poznate. Isto tako bih preporucio i Trebinjske u skoro istome kvalitetu IAT Swislion (industrija alata Trebinje). Imate na netu sajt i kod istih mozete pogledati kataloge i kupiti burgije. Ove Trebinjeske imaju u jednoj prodaji u mome mestu i na netu Ecomex alati Cacak.

Sto se tice sjajnih znaci brusenih burgija imaju obicne i kobaltne burgije i ove druge su duplo skuplje cenom ali i bolje.
Ja sam nedavno zvao FRA i mogu se kupiti po komadu te kobaltne burgije tipa 6mm mislim 200 din sa pdv-om, onda 8mm mislim 300 din itd. Ceo set od 0,5mm do 10mm sa 0,5mm razlike po velicini znaci 19 burgija je 4200 dinara sa pvd-om.

Ja sam cak trazio jos neke sa finijom obradom od brusenja tj polirane za alumijium ali nisam nasao pa ako ko zna gde ima kupiti bio bih mu zahvalan na infotmaciji.

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Mon, 29/04/2019 - 21:10
EX YU proizvođači reznog
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EX YU proizvođači reznog alata radili su prilično dobre rezne alate,koliko im je danas održan kvalitet ostaje pitanje.Čak ima i tu falševa danas navodnoTrebinjske se prodaju pod tim imenom i koje jesu i koje nisu.Skoro sam naručio preko aliexpresa kineske burgije set 10 kom. za nekih 15€ i bio sam prilično iznenađen kako buše sa lakoćom.Prethodno sam kupio Metabo bile se zapakovane pa nisam moga da vidim,kada sam otpakovao izgledale su kao plastične a navodno HSS.Jedino pravilo je da nema pravila kada su u pitanju niže razredni brendovi.Ko hoće profi Kennmetal,Iscar,Ghuring...sa njim neće omanuti kod mene se koriste u firmi i vrhunski su alati.
Treba obratiti pažnji na geometriju reznog klina,težina a tek na kraju boju.Ukoliko je glavna rezna oštrica dobro i pravilno naoštrena,vidi se da je brušena kao i pomoćna ivica to bi trebalo da ukazuje da nije neki falš.Ovo se naravno odnosi na burgije za metal.

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Mon, 29/04/2019 - 22:26
Nema greske i dalje kod FRA
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Nema greske i dalje kod FRA burgija, sve se radi kao i pre, ne u tolikome obimu jer radnici nece da rade, a direktori ih ne teraju jer je i dalje drzavna firma, ali postoje kontrole i sve sto ne zadovoljava ne moze da prodje i ode u prodaju. Sto se tice celika i to se zna koji se koristi, nije neki los nego visokolegirani alatni, kobaltni, molibdenski itd koji se uglavnom kupuje i stize iz Austrije. Sve u svemu u nasima firmama u Srbiji sto se pravi i dalje je zadovoljavajucega i proverenoga kvaliteta, barem nam je to ostalo iz proslosti. U dosta oblasti nije nemacki kvalitet ali i dalje je iznad vecine kineske robe koja stize do nas i kupujmo domace!

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