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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:742:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Hvala ne znaci mi to mnogo posto ne znam to da preracunam ,nisam elektricar ,ne znam koja je amperaza potrosaca ili kako to vec ide.<br />\\nU principu za ovo sto meni treba mislim da ide jedan od ova dva kabla :</p>\\n<p>PGP 5X4mm2 ili<br />\\nPGP 5x6mm2 </p>\\n<p>Verujem da majstori elektricari mogu to da mi kazu bez racunanja ,mozda je 5x6mm2 i jaci nego sto meni in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:386:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Знам да незнам, а све што знам научио сам од неког.</p>\\n ', created = 1684919904, expire = 1685006304, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:2931e432294a1643b5ed309e8d1117fc'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, � in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:796:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>И ја сам лаик али, и као такав, знам да не би требало да стављаш већи пресек кабла него што је онај који долази ДО сата јер нема сврхе ако је до сата доведен мањи пресек. Погледај амперажу осигурача код главног сата па ће ти то бити показатељ, а онда ће in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:520:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Verujem da majstori elektricari mogu to da mi kazu bez racunanja ,mozda je 5x6mm2 i jaci nego sto meni treba<br />\\nElektricari pomagajte malo</p>\\n<p> Dobro ste obavešteni,netrebaju vam električari.!</p>\\n ', created = 1684919904, expire = 1685006304, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:8b4179809f9c815478b44fbbd9070739'\";s:5:\ in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1772:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>@nakamura ,sad cu da ti objasnim ja bas nisam totalni laik znam ponesto ,napojni kabal se dovodi na osnovu snage svih potrosaca koje imas u stanu/kuci nebitno koja stuja ti dolazi do sata.Zasto? Zato da nebi morao da ponovo cupas taj kabal posle odredjenog vremena kad pojacas dovod do sata ,znaci tebi je bitno da odradis sve po ps-u do sata a sta dolazi do sata na to mozes ili ne mozes da utices ako je slaba struja promenice se jednog dana na jacu in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:488:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Ako vec postoji buzir, onda je bolje zameniti samo provodnike. Ako je neko stavio kabal u buzir onda tu nema zamene, jer je kabal previse krut. Moze samo da se vadi iz zida komplet sa buzirom.</p>\\n ', created = 1684919904, expire = 1685006304, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:fa1fa9c9862ee0434d1269a1341b1df3'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvoj in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:610:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Ovo bi moglo da bude resenje posto mislim da tu ima neki stari bulzir ili je to bergamova cev ne znam tacno ,moram pogledati.Ako ne moze da prodje vadim sve ,posto su tu sad samo tri provodnika ,dva za fazu i nula to je stara instalacija iz 1957god.U pravu si nema vadjenja kabla iz bulzira zbog krutosti.Hvala zec</p>\\n ', created = 1684919904, expire = 1685006304, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = &am in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1528:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Evo situacija je sledeca ,bili su majstori za napojni kabal.Rekli su mi da 90% postoji mogucnost da se izvuku stari provodnici iz bulzira i da se ubace novi.Oni su prdlozili da se stavi najaci presek 6mm2 da bih bio obezbedjen i za kasnije kad stigne 3 fazna struja.Znaci 3 faze i nulu da provuku kroz bulzir.Medjutim rekli su mi mozda i nema potrebe odma da uvodim 3faznu struju vec da u koliko ne bih imao taj trofazni kotao vec npr u dve sobe ubaci in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Napojni kabal za stan 40m2

Submitted by 83majstor on Mon, 17/04/2017 - 15:44

Pozdrav kolege!
Moze li neko da mi kaze koji napojin kabal dovesti od sata u prizemlju na 3 sprat u stan 40m2.
U stanu od jacih potrosaca imam:
1.Sporet
2.Frizider
3.Bojler.
4.Dve klime(samo za hladjenje) znaci ne bi radile kad i etazno grejenje.
5.Planirani elektro kotao od 9kw za etazno grejanje.
6.Grejalica u kupatilu koja ne bi radila kad radi etazno grejanje.
7.Ostali slabiji potrosaci (tv,sijalicna mesta ukupno 5kom,aspirator).

Mon, 17/04/2017 - 19:01
Можда ти ово помогне
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Можда ти ово помогне

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Mon, 17/04/2017 - 19:27
Hvala ne znaci mi to mnogo
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Hvala ne znaci mi to mnogo posto ne znam to da preracunam ,nisam elektricar ,ne znam koja je amperaza potrosaca ili kako to vec ide.
U principu za ovo sto meni treba mislim da ide jedan od ova dva kabla :

PGP 5X4mm2 ili
PGP 5x6mm2

Verujem da majstori elektricari mogu to da mi kazu bez racunanja ,mozda je 5x6mm2 i jaci nego sto meni treba
Elektricari pomagajte malo

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Mon, 17/04/2017 - 19:36
5x6.
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5x6.

Знам да незнам, а све што знам научио сам од неког.

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Tue, 18/04/2017 - 00:52
И ја сам лаик али, и као
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И ја сам лаик али, и као такав, знам да не би требало да стављаш већи пресек кабла него што је онај који долази ДО сата јер нема сврхе ако је до сата доведен мањи пресек. Погледај амперажу осигурача код главног сата па ће ти то бити показатељ, а онда ће и она табела имати смисла.

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Tue, 18/04/2017 - 06:47
Verujem da majstori
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Verujem da majstori elektricari mogu to da mi kazu bez racunanja ,mozda je 5x6mm2 i jaci nego sto meni treba
Elektricari pomagajte malo

Dobro ste obavešteni,netrebaju vam električari.!

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Tue, 18/04/2017 - 16:30
@nakamura ,sad cu da ti
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@nakamura ,sad cu da ti objasnim ja bas nisam totalni laik znam ponesto ,napojni kabal se dovodi na osnovu snage svih potrosaca koje imas u stanu/kuci nebitno koja stuja ti dolazi do sata.Zasto? Zato da nebi morao da ponovo cupas taj kabal posle odredjenog vremena kad pojacas dovod do sata ,znaci tebi je bitno da odradis sve po ps-u do sata a sta dolazi do sata na to mozes ili ne mozes da utices ako je slaba struja promenice se jednog dana na jacu a ti ces ponovo morati da kopas napoji kabal iz zida i radis dupli posao.
Zato sam i pitao 5x4ili 5x6 nema tu neke trece opcije znaci jedan od ta dva necu sigurno da stavim 5x10 suludo je a 5x2.5 je slabo i to je to.

@Dedadule informisan sam dosta ,sam sam odradio komplet instalaciju u stanu uz nadzor jednog elektricara koji mi je trenutno nedostupan zato i pitam ovde ,naci cu elektricara da mi odspoji i spoji novi kabal svakako ali 90% posla cu odraditi sam.Pitao sam za ova dva kabla jer ne znam koliko opterecenje trpe ,ali skoro da sam siguran da je bolje ici na 5x6mm2

@Da li neko zna moze li se usponski kabal staviti u metalne kanalice u hodnik ili je bolje izvaditi stari kabal u koliko ovaj ne moze da prodje kroz njegov bulzir?
Ajmo saveti... Smile

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Tue, 18/04/2017 - 21:50
Ako vec postoji buzir, onda
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Ako vec postoji buzir, onda je bolje zameniti samo provodnike. Ako je neko stavio kabal u buzir onda tu nema zamene, jer je kabal previse krut. Moze samo da se vadi iz zida komplet sa buzirom.

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Tue, 18/04/2017 - 22:25
Ovo bi moglo da bude resenje
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Ovo bi moglo da bude resenje posto mislim da tu ima neki stari bulzir ili je to bergamova cev ne znam tacno ,moram pogledati.Ako ne moze da prodje vadim sve ,posto su tu sad samo tri provodnika ,dva za fazu i nula to je stara instalacija iz 1957god.U pravu si nema vadjenja kabla iz bulzira zbog krutosti.Hvala zec

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Tue, 25/04/2017 - 19:52
Evo situacija je sledeca
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Evo situacija je sledeca ,bili su majstori za napojni kabal.Rekli su mi da 90% postoji mogucnost da se izvuku stari provodnici iz bulzira i da se ubace novi.Oni su prdlozili da se stavi najaci presek 6mm2 da bih bio obezbedjen i za kasnije kad stigne 3 fazna struja.Znaci 3 faze i nulu da provuku kroz bulzir.Medjutim rekli su mi mozda i nema potrebe odma da uvodim 3faznu struju vec da u koliko ne bih imao taj trofazni kotao vec npr u dve sobe ubacio te pec mogao bi da se grejem i na monofaznu i da mi stan normalno funkcionise ,kazu da ne bih imao nekih problema za normalno funkcionisanje.Mozda bih mogao da stavim i norveske radijatore 2-3 kom.
E sad oni kazu da mogu da izvuku od glavnog napojnog voda u zgradi do sata i osigaraca da izvuku tri nova jaca provodnika da mi ojacaju i taj deo ,i da postave tri jaca glavna osiguraca kod sata i taj jaci napojni kabal.
Moolio bih misljenje ljudi koji se stvarno razumeju u elekrtiku da mi daju savet da li je to ok sto su mi oni predlozili u nekoj varijanti dok ne bih uveo trofaznu struju po proceduri.Za to mi traze 5 glava da sve zavrse za materijalom ,stan se nalazi na 3 spratu znaci 4 etaze odozdole.
Svaki savet bi mi mnogo pomogao.

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Tue, 25/04/2017 - 21:41
6mm2 ti je vise nego
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6mm2 ti je vise nego dovoljno.Jel imas uzemljenje i u kakvom je stanju ako ima to obavezno da proveris ako nema moras da odradis to.Moj savet ti je da razvuces dovod kao da je u pitanju trofazni prikljucak pa kad bude moglo predjes na trofaznu.Nemozes ti da stavljas jace osigurace od dozvoljenih,protivzakonito je.Imas odobrenu instalisanu snagu i prema njoj su glavni osiguraci.Za vecu instalisanu snagu ili prelazak sa monofazne na trofaznu struju moras da podneses zahtev pa ako postoji mogucnost i odobre ti onda platis ponudjeno.

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Sat, 29/04/2017 - 17:39
Imam uzemljenje sam sam ga
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Imam uzemljenje sam sam ga napravio tako sto sam vezao jedan provodnik za vodovodnu cev to mi je rekao elektricar da uradim posto ga nije bilo ,i taj provodnik od cevi metalne ide na osiguracku tablu ,e sad ovaj majstor mi kaze da ne treba da vuce odozdole provodnik za uzemljenje nego da on to moze da uradi nesto na osigurackoj tabli ne znam na sta je mislio provericu.U principu ovo moje uzemljenje funkcionise jer znam da niko dole ispod nije ubacio plasticnu cev na vertikalu ,nije je presekao za sada.Mada mi ovaj drugi elektricar kaze da to nije najbolje resenje i da ce to on preko table da mi sredi..Ok shvatio sam za osigurace i 3 faznu.Hvala na info.

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Izvuci cu 5 provodnika odozdole samo cekam da slepci iz sbb izvuku svoj kabal od antene iz mog bulzira ,za to se u swedskoj robija!

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Sat, 29/04/2017 - 18:37
тог
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83majstor wrote:
Iuzemljenje sam sam ga napravio tako sto sam vezao jedan provodnik za vodovodnu cev to mi je rekao elektricar da uradim posto ga nije bilo!

Тог мајстора боли уво да ли ће неког да пецка или тресе струја.

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Sat, 29/04/2017 - 20:44
Odradi uzemljenje kako treba.
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Odradi uzemljenje kako treba.

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Mon, 01/05/2017 - 12:50
Naravno svih 5 zila ,naso sam
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Naravno svih 5 zila ,naso sam majstora koji ce mi to odraditi jako povoljno i kvalitetno.
Savet za ostale kad nesto radite zovite 10 ako treba i 20 majstora tako cete najbolje doci do informacija a i nece niko moci da vas prevari ,dosta je prevaranata dundjera kako ih ja zovem ,ni ne pogledaju posao samo su im novci u glavi ,Znaci kad vam oni svi ispricaju svoje price lazi i istine onda se presaberete i odaberete najboljeg.
Sto se mene tice s ovom temom mislim da sam zavrsio!
Hvala svima na savetima!

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