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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1341:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Zapoceo sam adaptaciju sprata i zahvaljujuci ovom sajtu radim sve sam. Kao sto mozete videti iz slike ozidao sam ostavu od YTONG blokova, ali sad imam problem sa tavanicom. Posto dimenzije tavanice nisu mnogo velike 125 x 270cm interesuje me da li mogu da ukrstim nosace u 2 pravca bez visilica i da direktno montiram gipsane ploce. Ne bih postavljao visilice zato jer za godinu dve planiram da renoviram krov. Posto mi je iznad otvoreni krov postavio in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:553:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Ako je privremeno rešenje onda postavi komad paljene žice, 2mm, tako da je jedan kraj vezan za rog, a grugi za podkonstrukciju, jer ipak je 2,7m veliki raspon da drži sve što planiraš da postaviš.To bi bilo neko improvizovano rešenje umesto visilica.</p>\\n ', created = 1684745988, expire = 1684832388, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:c5482b389bb01ec5492c7268d700f287'\" in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:607:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Kad renoviram krov planiram da skinem crep, pa kovanje dasaka i parne brane pa opet crep odozgo. Grede ne planiram da menjam. Ako postavim paljenu zicu(mozda to bude i stalno resenje?), prilikom kovanja dasaka na grede, da li ce doci do vibracija i pucanja lepka - glet mase na spojevima izmedju gipsanih ploca?</p>\\n ', created = 1684745988, expire = 1684832388, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = &# in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:646:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Ako postoji mogucnost mozes da postavis neku drvenu gredu po duzini (270),<br />\\nnpr. 12*10 na kant, a onda sa donje strane za nju da pricvrstis konstrukciju direktnim nosacima! U tom slucaju taj plafon nece biti vezan za krov, nosice ga ta greda i mislim da je to dovoljno za privremeno resenje! Kasnije kad uradis krov ojacas sve to dodatno!</p>\\n ', created = 1684745988, expire = 1684832388, headers = &#0 in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Problem postavljanje plafona bez visilica?vidi sliku

Submitted by marvik on Sat, 09/10/2010 - 11:05

Zapoceo sam adaptaciju sprata i zahvaljujuci ovom sajtu radim sve sam. Kao sto mozete videti iz slike ozidao sam ostavu od YTONG blokova, ali sad imam problem sa tavanicom. Posto dimenzije tavanice nisu mnogo velike 125 x 270cm interesuje me da li mogu da ukrstim nosace u 2 pravca bez visilica i da direktno montiram gipsane ploce. Ne bih postavljao visilice zato jer za godinu dve planiram da renoviram krov. Posto mi je iznad otvoreni krov postavio bih neku vrstu sendic tavanice - gipsane ploce odozdo, kamena vuna u sredini pa gipsana ploca odozgo. Ako je ovo moguce da li treba da stavim parnu branu ili sl. Iz slike se moze videti (mozda malo teze) da sam na delu gde ce biti tavanica postavio crnu foliju sa donje strane krova kako ne bi eventualno kapala voda sa krova. Ako imate neke druge predloge predlazite Laughing out loud

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Sat, 09/10/2010 - 11:13
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Ako je privremeno rešenje onda postavi komad paljene žice, 2mm, tako da je jedan kraj vezan za rog, a grugi za podkonstrukciju, jer ipak je 2,7m veliki raspon da drži sve što planiraš da postaviš.To bi bilo neko improvizovano rešenje umesto visilica.

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Sat, 09/10/2010 - 11:29
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Kad renoviram krov planiram da skinem crep, pa kovanje dasaka i parne brane pa opet crep odozgo. Grede ne planiram da menjam. Ako postavim paljenu zicu(mozda to bude i stalno resenje?), prilikom kovanja dasaka na grede, da li ce doci do vibracija i pucanja lepka - glet mase na spojevima izmedju gipsanih ploca?

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Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:06
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Ako postoji mogucnost mozes da postavis neku drvenu gredu po duzini (270),
npr. 12*10 na kant, a onda sa donje strane za nju da pricvrstis konstrukciju direktnim nosacima! U tom slucaju taj plafon nece biti vezan za krov, nosice ga ta greda i mislim da je to dovoljno za privremeno resenje! Kasnije kad uradis krov ojacas sve to dodatno!

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Wed, 08/12/2010 - 20:11
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Vidim da je i dalje uvrezeno shvatanje da krov treba podascati.
Prema sadasnjem stanju tehnike i ako se koriste materijali odgovarajucih karakteristika krov ne treba podascavati,
Evo objasnjenja:
1. Podascan krov otezava ventilisanost krovasa spoljne strane
2. Dascanjem krova se ne retko koriste daske najlosijeg kvaliteta koje lako mogu uneti stetocine u krovnu konstrukciju
3. Dascanje krova uvecava bespotrebno troskove

- Umesto dascanja treba koristiti kvalitetne paropropusne i istovremeno vodoodbojne folije
- Ukoliko konstruktivni ili izvocacki razlozi nalazu da na odredjenim kriticnim ili tesko dostupnim mestima /krovne badze i slicno/ vec mora da se dasca krov onda svakako koristiti suvu cetinarsku dasku 1 ili 2 klase max. debljine 2 cm
Najinteresantnije je da je prilicno veliki broj gradjevinskih inzinjera i dalje na stavu da krov treba dascati.
Krovnu konstrukciju treba izvesti u svemu prema pravilima koristeci odgovarajuce materijale i obavezno izvoditi ventilacioni kanale ispod crepa i odgovarajucu ventilaciju na grebenima i slemenu. Ovo automatski znaci da je malterisanje poklopaca na slemenu i grebenima iskljuceno.

Nisam dovoljno bogat da kupujem jeftine stvari

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