Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '3:2d46d309075a3a0f1971c387cda2981c'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/gradjevinarstvo/zidarski-radovi/ravnajuci-sloj', '', '162.158.78.169', 1684948324) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:739:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Ovako:</p>\\n<p>Kupujem stan u izgradnji. Stan je u prizemlju. Trenutno je u fazi da treba postaviti ravnajuci sloj. Zvao me investitor da pita da li zelim da mi se stavi stiropor i ukoliko zelim da treba da platim 100 eur jer to nije planirano po projektu.<br />\\nImam pitanje: Da li se stiropor podrazumeva kada je u pitanju ravnajuci sloj? Da li je to standard ili samo opcija?</p>\\n<p in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:458:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Stirodur je bolje rešenje, a da li je standard ili ne zavisi od projekta.Pošto je prizemlje u pitanju ja bih tu najpre uradio hidroizolaciju poda pa sve ostalo.</p>\\n ', created = 1684948324, expire = 1685034724, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:d56156a7f573876e0c3004712d1265f5'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:541:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>[marq=left]<span style=\\"color:blue\\"><span style=\\"font-weight:bold\\"><span style=\\"font-style:italic\\">Uradi sam, ali bez znanja i alata nema zanata!</span></span></span>[/marq]</p>\\n ', created = 1684948324, expire = 1685034724, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:409:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Без алата нема заната, a без знања ни најбољи алат неће помоћи..</p>\\n ', created = 1684948324, expire = 1685034724, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:f0da8a98e1c6682beb3cd064732e4fc0'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\" in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:870:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Hvala na odgovoru.</p>\\n<p>Mene zapravo zanima da li on hoce da me \\"odradi\\". Kaze da je na gornjim spratovima stavljen stiropor ali za prizemlje nije planiran pa ako ja hocu da platim da mi se uradi. Sumljivo mi je zasto mi to nudi ako to nije potrebno (nije predvidjeno projektom). </p>\\n<p>Inace uradjena je hidro izolacija. Ne znam koliko uopste znaci taj stiropor kao t in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:195:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_filter WHERE cid = '3:3c90fb51fbcbf2c8fb12a05714968dd4'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:25;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/gradjevinarstvo/zidarski-radovi/ravnajuci-sloj', '', '162.158.78.169', 1684948324) in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:570:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Uglavnom kao termoizolacija, a da bi se koristio i kao zvučna mora ispod njega doći apsorpcioni materijal.Termoizolovati pod u prizemlju sigurno nije greška i nije bačena para.E sad kako je predvidjeno projektom to ne znam i da ji je to već uračunato u cenu ili nije.</p>\\n ', created = 1684948324, expire = 1685034724, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:3c90fb51fbcbf2c8fb12a05714968dd in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:541:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>[marq=left]<span style=\\"color:blue\\"><span style=\\"font-weight:bold\\"><span style=\\"font-style:italic\\">Uradi sam, ali bez znanja i alata nema zanata!</span></span></span>[/marq]</p>\\n ', created = 1684948324, expire = 1685034724, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:409:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Без алата нема заната, a без знања ни најбољи алат неће помоћи..</p>\\n ', created = 1684948324, expire = 1685034724, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:f0da8a98e1c6682beb3cd064732e4fc0'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\" in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:319:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Hvala na informacijama!</p>\\n ', created = 1684948324, expire = 1685034724, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:2738a4f5a8be38db4016eabf402af772'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\"%line\";i:108;}', 3, '', 'http://www.samsvojmajstor.com/portal/print/forums/ in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:497:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Na novoizgradjenim zgradama se po projektu uglavnom ispod kosuljice postavlja neka vrsta izolacije.Da li ce to biti stiropor ili nesto drugo odlucuje investitor u dogovoru sa izvodjacem i projektantom.</p>\\n ', created = 1684948324, expire = 1685034724, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '3:76857173fb7eef8ceac6a5d960e0d352'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domain in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Ravnajuci sloj

Submitted by prek0v on Sat, 19/12/2009 - 17:36

Ovako:

Kupujem stan u izgradnji. Stan je u prizemlju. Trenutno je u fazi da treba postaviti ravnajuci sloj. Zvao me investitor da pita da li zelim da mi se stavi stiropor i ukoliko zelim da treba da platim 100 eur jer to nije planirano po projektu.
Imam pitanje: Da li se stiropor podrazumeva kada je u pitanju ravnajuci sloj? Da li je to standard ili samo opcija?

Hvala unapred na odgovoru

Sat, 19/12/2009 - 18:19
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Stirodur je bolje rešenje, a da li je standard ili ne zavisi od projekta.Pošto je prizemlje u pitanju ja bih tu najpre uradio hidroizolaciju poda pa sve ostalo.

Без алата нема заната, a без знања ни најбољи алат неће помоћи..

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Sat, 19/12/2009 - 22:43
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Hvala na odgovoru.

Mene zapravo zanima da li on hoce da me "odradi". Kaze da je na gornjim spratovima stavljen stiropor ali za prizemlje nije planiran pa ako ja hocu da platim da mi se uradi. Sumljivo mi je zasto mi to nudi ako to nije potrebno (nije predvidjeno projektom).

Inace uradjena je hidro izolacija. Ne znam koliko uopste znaci taj stiropor kao termo izolacija i zasto je predvidjen za sve spratove a za prizemlje nije? Jel to zbog zvucne izolacije? Da li se stiropor stavlja kao zvucna ili kao termo izolacija?

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Sat, 19/12/2009 - 23:10
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Uglavnom kao termoizolacija, a da bi se koristio i kao zvučna mora ispod njega doći apsorpcioni materijal.Termoizolovati pod u prizemlju sigurno nije greška i nije bačena para.E sad kako je predvidjeno projektom to ne znam i da ji je to već uračunato u cenu ili nije.

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Sun, 20/12/2009 - 00:50
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Hvala na informacijama!

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Sun, 20/12/2009 - 20:57
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Na novoizgradjenim zgradama se po projektu uglavnom ispod kosuljice postavlja neka vrsta izolacije.Da li ce to biti stiropor ili nesto drugo odlucuje investitor u dogovoru sa izvodjacem i projektantom.

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Fri, 25/12/2009 - 18:16
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pa evo da i ja kažem koju na ovo jako dobro pitanje
-po svim standardima DIN,ISO i td.je predviđena toplotna izolacija ,posebno u prizemnim prostorima mora da bude deblja nego na prvom spratu,zato što su ispod neogrevani prostori (garaže,podrumi) ili je samo betonska ploča i hidroizolacija.
Nisam siguran al mislim da je najmanja debljina stiropora 7 cm,zašto?
Ja sam isto kupio stan u bloku i investitor je zbog neodgovarajuće debeline toplotne izolacije morao da plati odštetu u višini 14000 eur,išlo se za debljinu 2 cm.štedeo je i dao je 5 cm stiropor,u projektu je bilo 7 cm.Konačnu odluku je doneo sudski izvedenec.
Problem je što u Srbiji nije donet zakon o stanovanjski gradnji i pravilima igre o zaštiti kupca.(ZVKSES)
U Sloveniji je to dosta dobro rešeno.
Zato predlažem da inzistiraš da obavezno daju toplotnu izolaciju po projektu i bez ikakve nadoknade,jer taj investitor ako gradi mora da zna da to mora da napravi,ili uzmite kakvog stručnjaka i pritisnite investitora jer neznam kakva su pravila dole.
Posledice su,hladan tlak,vlaga,kondenc,previše potrošene energije za ogrevanje i td.

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