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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:641:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Ljudi zanima me da li neko zna kako spriječiti kondenzaciju u kotlu tj na zidovima ložišta. Imam peć Alfa 20 kW Vranje. Čuo sam da treba temperaturu stalno održavati na 60 stepeni C. Da li je to tačno i da da li postoji neki uređaj da se ugradi u peć kako bi se spriječila kondenzacija tj katran na zidovima ložišta. Unaprijed hvala.</p>\\n ', created = 1684753744, expire = 1684840144, headers = '', in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:863:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Glavni uzrok kondezacije je niska temperatura povratne vode, sprezi sa vlaznim gorivom i losim odzakom.<br />\\nResenje je ugradnja mesnog ventila, kojeg majstori u zargonu nazivaju mis ventil.<br />\\nTaj ventil omogucava da se ne salje sva voda iz kotla u radijatore, vec da deo vode koji izlazi iz kotla bude vracen u kotao. Na taj nacin mozes dobiti tih 60+ stepeni u povratnom vodu, a da ti u radijatore ide voda nize te in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:420:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Hvala ti puno na informacijama.Nadam se da se taj mis ventil moze naknadno ugradit,posto imam bas problema sa kondenzacijom.</p>\\n ', created = 1684753744, expire = 1684840144, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:c445c12f2752e65b511d2709e38f3bf9'\";s:5:\"%file\";s:76:\"/home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/cache.inc\";s:5:\" in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:643:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Često taj problem imaju ljudi kojima pumpa za grejanje radi neprekidno. Jako je važno da pumpa radi preko termostata, jer je i to način da se smanji količina kondenza u kotlu.</p>\\n<p><span style=\\"color:#FF0000\\">Nema besplatne reklame ni na ovom forumu, kao ni na drugim mestima, u ostalom.Moderator.</span></p>\\n ', created = 1684753745, expire in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:861:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>Ugradnja termostata za cirkulacionu pumpu i nije tako dobro resenje. Prvo, pitanje je da li ce pumpa svakog puta krenuti, ili se moze desiti da \\"zaglavi\\". Drugo, kad kotao postigne na primer 50C i ukljuci se pumpa, desava se da iz same instalacije preko povratnog voda dobije pothladjenu vodu iz sistema (veci deo sistema je potopljen). Znaci, skoro isti slucaj kao i bez termostata. Najbolje resenje je ugradnja mesnog ventila. Nj in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Warning: Table './ssm_restore/watchdog' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (0, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1126:\"Table 'ssm_restore.cache_filter' doesn't exist\nquery: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = ' <p></p><p>mi ložimo ABC pećku i zagrevamo trosobnu kuću,ne znamo šta je kondenz a nemamo mesni ventil.maki trik je da kad potpališ kotao(mi ga preko noći ne ložimo) pojačaš dovod vazduha da se što pre ugreje dimovodna cev i odžak,a to što radi mesni ventil to uradimo sami,znači isključiš pumpu i kad voda u kotlu dostigne 60 stepeni onda je pustiš i tako tri puta, za to vreme voda koja se vraća u kotao dostigne 40 stepeni .cele zime nam tempe in /home/admin/domains/samsvojmajstor.com/public_html/portal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 135

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Kondenzacija u kotlu

Submitted by Milan Hocevar on Thu, 01/03/2012 - 15:30

Ljudi zanima me da li neko zna kako spriječiti kondenzaciju u kotlu tj na zidovima ložišta. Imam peć Alfa 20 kW Vranje. Čuo sam da treba temperaturu stalno održavati na 60 stepeni C. Da li je to tačno i da da li postoji neki uređaj da se ugradi u peć kako bi se spriječila kondenzacija tj katran na zidovima ložišta. Unaprijed hvala.

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 10:32
kondezacija
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Glavni uzrok kondezacije je niska temperatura povratne vode, sprezi sa vlaznim gorivom i losim odzakom.
Resenje je ugradnja mesnog ventila, kojeg majstori u zargonu nazivaju mis ventil.
Taj ventil omogucava da se ne salje sva voda iz kotla u radijatore, vec da deo vode koji izlazi iz kotla bude vracen u kotao. Na taj nacin mozes dobiti tih 60+ stepeni u povratnom vodu, a da ti u radijatore ide voda nize temperature.
To je trebao da ti preporuci i ugradi majstor koji je radio instalaciju centralnog grejanja i montazu kotla.

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Fri, 02/03/2012 - 16:10
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Hvala ti puno na informacijama.Nadam se da se taj mis ventil moze naknadno ugradit,posto imam bas problema sa kondenzacijom.

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Sat, 03/03/2012 - 20:48
KONDEZACIJA !!!
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Vlazno gorivo i los, los odzak.
Mala je snaga za troputni ventol.

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Tue, 06/03/2012 - 21:24
Po čemu je mala snaga za
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Po čemu je mala snaga za troputni ventil? Šta to znači?

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Thu, 08/03/2012 - 13:29
Često taj problem imaju ljudi
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Često taj problem imaju ljudi kojima pumpa za grejanje radi neprekidno. Jako je važno da pumpa radi preko termostata, jer je i to način da se smanji količina kondenza u kotlu.

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Wed, 14/03/2012 - 22:33
Ugradnja termostata za
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Ugradnja termostata za cirkulacionu pumpu i nije tako dobro resenje. Prvo, pitanje je da li ce pumpa svakog puta krenuti, ili se moze desiti da "zaglavi". Drugo, kad kotao postigne na primer 50C i ukljuci se pumpa, desava se da iz same instalacije preko povratnog voda dobije pothladjenu vodu iz sistema (veci deo sistema je potopljen). Znaci, skoro isti slucaj kao i bez termostata. Najbolje resenje je ugradnja mesnog ventila. Njegove prednosti nisu samo smanjivanje razlike izmedju odvodnog i povratnog voda, vec usteda goriva i veci komfor grejanja.

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Thu, 15/03/2012 - 11:27
Hajde objasni kako se mesnim
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Hajde objasni kako se mesnim ventilom uštedi gorivo

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Thu, 15/03/2012 - 17:59
mali trikovi
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mi ložimo ABC pećku i zagrevamo trosobnu kuću,ne znamo šta je kondenz a nemamo mesni ventil.maki trik je da kad potpališ kotao(mi ga preko noći ne ložimo) pojačaš dovod vazduha da se što pre ugreje dimovodna cev i odžak,a to što radi mesni ventil to uradimo sami,znači isključiš pumpu i kad voda u kotlu dostigne 60 stepeni onda je pustiš i tako tri puta, za to vreme voda koja se vraća u kotao dostigne 40 stepeni .cele zime nam temperatura vode nije prelazila 50-55 stepeni i nemamo kondez.prošlu smo zimu kasno spremali ceo projekat pa smo imali uglavnom loša i mokra drva,a ove zime smo ih kupili domaćinski uleto i nema problema.najnižu temperaturu smo pregurali sa manjom količinom uglja sušenog koji lepo nabija temperaturu vode,a sve ostalo sa suvim drvima.probaj to bar ne košta,kod nas je uspelo.

Ko ume da voli,ne bi trebalo ništa drugo da radi.

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Fri, 16/03/2012 - 14:26
Obicno su kotlovi predvidjeni
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Obicno su kotlovi predvidjeni za vise temperaturne rezime. Samim tim, iskoriscenje kotla je vece kada radi na visim temperaturama. Fakticki bi radijatori trebali da rade na temperaturi 90/70, sto nikako nije dobro... kotao drzis pod "opterecenjem", visi stepen iskoriscenosti, a radijatore drzis na komfornih 50C. Prosto.

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Fri, 16/03/2012 - 15:34
Na taj način povećavaš i
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Na taj način povećavaš i potrošnju ogreva.Najbolje je uzeti kotao odgovarajuće snage i ložit ga normalno 70/90 c a u sistemu ako je dobro proračunat temperatura će biti 50/60 c

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Fri, 16/03/2012 - 15:57
Mesni ventil
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ivoludilo wrote:
Na taj način povećavaš i potrošnju ogreva.Najbolje je uzeti kotao odgovarajuće snage i ložit ga normalno 70/90 c a u sistemu ako je dobro proračunat temperatura će biti 50/60 c

Zanimljivo. Ne zelim da se raspravljam i pametujem jer ovo nisam ja izmislio.
Mene interesuje kako mozes kotao da drzis na temperaturi 90/70 a da ti radijatori budu na 50 ili 60 C?
Nismo ovde da merimo pamet jedni drugima, ali ajde da iznesem svoje misljenje i iskustvo.
Kotao moze da bude odgovarajuce snage, proracunat po potrebnoj snazi za zagrevanje objekta (uracunati gubici). Takav kotao ne radi uvek na istim spoljim temperaturama. Ako se kotao koji je predvidjen za temperaturni rezim 90/70 koristi na niskim temperaturama (obicno ispod 55C) dolazi do pojave kondezacije, hvatanja smole na zidovima kotla. Tada je njegov stepen efikasnosti dosta manji. Ako se uzme u obzir da je kolicina i vrsta grejnih tela dobro proracunata, na spoljnoj temperaturi od -20, za zagrevanje iste prostorije nece biti dovoljno na primer 50C.
Postoje regulacioni ventili, koji nisu sada tema ove diskusije, i nisam jos ni jedan ugradio u kucne varijante centralnog grejanja. Balansiranje sistema ne igra nikakvu ulogu u odredjivanju polazne i povratne temperature. Znaci, mesni ventil se ne koristi samo kao zastita od niskotemperaturne korozije kotla. Njegove primene su visestruke. Postoje i mesni ventili sa motornim pogonom, koji automatski regulisu potrebnu kolicinu mesanja.
Postoje i termostatski mesni ventili, koji su fabricki odredjeni za odgovarajuce temperaturne rezime kotla.
Ako uzmemo u obzir da je ceo sistem dobro odradjen, kada kotao postigne svoju radnu temperaturu, regulator promaje zatvara dovod primarnog vazduha i tada kotao samo odrzava zadatu temperaturu i ostaje u stanju pripremljenosti. (potrosnja je smanjena).
Sve kotlove snage preko 20KW ja ugradjujem sa mesnim ventilom. Praktikujem da koristim 4 kraki zbog veceg pada pritiska koji se javlja kod 3 krakog. Prednost je jos u tome kada postoji sistem pripreme sanitarne tople vode na centralnom bojleru. Tada se izmenjivac bojlera povezuje pre mesnog ventila. Kroz moju licnu kotlarnicu je proslo kotlova i kotlova, eksperimentisano je, menjano....Niko me ne moze ubediti u suprotno da mesni ventil ne pruza ustedu ogreva, komfor i jos niz drugih pogodnosti.
PS. Nista licno, ja sam samo izneo svoje misljenje i iskustvo. Ovde sam iskljucivo da pokusam da pomognem ljudima, a ne da se prepirem sa kolegama.
Pozdrav

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Thu, 10/10/2013 - 22:36
za kolegu
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Grejac wrote:
Obicno su kotlovi predvidjeni za vise temperaturne rezime. Samim tim, iskoriscenje kotla je vece kada radi na visim temperaturama. Fakticki bi radijatori trebali da rade na temperaturi 90/70, sto nikako nije dobro... kotao drzis pod "opterecenjem", visi stepen iskoriscenosti, a radijatore drzis na komfornih 50C. Prosto.

sa kime se ti grudvas kad covek kaze da mesnim ne stedis na gorivu Smile ccccc, vidim da si iskusan brate. pozdrav od kolege...

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Fri, 11/10/2013 - 18:10
Kako drugacije?!
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Kako drugacije?!

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Pregrevanje
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Da li se ovdje moze i da li treba ugraditi mesni ventil?
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